Forced_Reps wrote:Bumped this back here as its taken over a week just to get my account verified by a mod......
Just to add my opinion...
I've been a regular on these boards for many years (new user name as account was disabled due to inactivity) and have played PES from the very beginning, IMO PES was a very good game, one of the better PES titles we've had in recent years, but, still does so much wrong that at times its quite embarassing.
Firstly, I hardly ever see this mentioned here on the forums, not sure why, maybe its because the forums consist of 95% online players, who just like frenetic, mindless kick and rush high tempo, non-stop 'football', thus dont see it as an issue, but..... fouls, or the complete lack of them.
PES 17 DOES NOT DO FOULS !!!!! fact.
I played 10 seasons of master league in PES 17 and had 1 penalty, in over 450 matches, one penalty, one single penalty.
Despite being hacked, assaulted, slid, pushed, everything in the box, its never ever given
Same applies to fouls all over the pitch, the collision detection and/or referee logic is so piss poor that the most blatant fouls never get called.
Every single match without fail, the game finishes with around 1 or 2 fouls per side, if that, mostly 0.
Derby matches between rivals finish with 0 fouls per side, completely ridiculous.
The game is also way way way too easy. on Superstar level I was able to do back to back quadruples, beating teams like Juventus 10-0 in the champions league where they had 1 shot on goal the whole match.
Its just so unrealistic, and to omit core basic rules of the sport, like fouls, is a disgrace, in what i can only assume is an attempt to cater towards the moronic online style of play, just keep the game flowing no matter what.
PES 17 is fantastic in places, but absurd in others, slog through a whole season and win the premier league, and ....... not even a trophy in sight, you get nothing, just an empty space where it should have been.
A player scores 5 goals in an 8-0 win and sets up the other 3 and only gets an 8 match rating, commentators calling things that aren't even happening, completely out of context or just spewing out the same old repetitive lines game after game. An 'Active' AI that is about as active as Stephen Hawkin at a trampoline park ....
If PES 18 is to have any legs then Konami need to stop being a lazy, half-assed type company and get back to pushing innovation like they used to.
I thought I was imagining this myself, played several seasons in various leagues using league mode and I have only seen 3 penalties across all of them.
Ironically the game is completely littered with stoppages an annoying play break ups in the centre circle, with 4 replays of them from various angles.
Completely ruins the game and makes you just want to end the game and go and do something else instead. The further up the levels you go, the worse it gets.
I don't recall ever seeing an AI player getting sent off, they rarely get booked never mind sent off. I started to watch all of this when I realised what the game was doing, I played 6 games against the AI and neither team got a corner kick, who ever heard of 1 football match that never had a corner, never mind 6 in a row with none?!
I am a Celtic fan, and ironically there are Celtic supporters in every match, shouting for their team, even in a league from another country and international matches!
Oh the irony too, for Celtic aren't even in the game!!
This game is a shockingly poor, cut down version of what it used to be 15 years ago on PS2 and these buggers are still marketing it as an A1 game and pricing accordingly.
I think we need a list of things that the game needs to have this time round without question to make it the game it needs to be by 2018.